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JP Sauer & Sohn Royal Shotgun Description: JP Sauer & Sohn Royal shotgun in great condition! 16 GA; 2 3/4 shotgun shell; Made in West Germany; Slight crack on both sides of stock near the receiver; Trigger gaurd has slight crack near the screw; Minor rust spot on tip of muzzle; SOLD Shotgun Gauge: 16 Gauge Manufacturer: JP Sauer & Sohn Model: Royal. JP Sauer and Sohn Royal 20 ga sxs 1963 near new Description: JP Sauer and Sohn Royal 20 ga sxs manufactured in 1963. Gun is in near new maybe unfired condition with only a couple indentations in wood from 50 plus years in safe. Gun has 26 inches barrels choked ic/mod with level filed rib and side clips. Here's a very nice, very high quality German made Side-by-Side shotgun. Manufactured by Sauer, this is a 'Royal' model. It is chambered for 12-gauge shells, it has 2-3/4' chambers, and wears barrels that measure 28-5/16' in length. Marked for Full Choke and Half Choke (modified). 16 Gauge; 95% blue, excellent bore, very good stock, 27.5' barrel, Manufactured in Germany during WW2, dated May 1944. Original blue finish barrels, casehardened frame, checkered walnut stock. Wartime commercial eagle/N proofs. 2 9/16 inch chambers with Full chokes. Matted solid rib with bead front sight. Jp Sauer Sohn Royal Shotgun Forum Site J.P. Sauer & Sohn, a vintage 12 gauge side by side shotgun made in Germany in 1955. This is a very high grade scalloped box lock action.

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cvdawley
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:15 pm
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Has anyone had experience with JP Sauer sxs's? For some reason I feel an attraction to these guns, though I have never had one.
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Old Shatterhand
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:36 pm

Joined: 24 Feb 2008
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Location: Nericia, Sweden

cvdawley wrote:
Has anyone had experience with JP Sauer sxs's? For some reason I feel an attraction to these guns, though I have never had one.

Pre-WWII guns are quite good as are other german guns from that time. I have got one in 12-bore, and it is a simple but well manufactured and well balanced gun. I would compare the qulity from this period with pre-war Winchesters. i.e. excellent.
You will find good information on this site: http://web.comhem.se/~u24326782/ It is the homepage of a swedish Sauer collector, mr. HaggÄrds.
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mdm1
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:45 pm
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I owned and shot one in 16 ga. for several years. It was a 1956 model, 68 cm barrels, choked full/full. Mine was plain, but very well made, very reliable. Metal to metal fit was quite tight even after 40 years. I sold it because it was time for something else with more open chokes. At least that's what I told myself at the time. Good luck.
Milton
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cvdawley
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:39 pm
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Shatterhand: You emailed me an article but something went wrong in the transmission and I cant access it, could you send it to me again? Thanks
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JonP
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:35 pm

Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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Location: MN

My favorite birdgun is a 1932 straight stock 16 ga. Sauer. Its just a field grade, simple engraving, no ejectors, auto safety. Had it fitted and it shoots great for me. Have never had a problem or failure. Has a nice thin wrist on it and is easy to one hand through the grouse cover. Found it in an upstate NY gun shop about eight years ago, paid $600 and I think I got a deal. Don't care now -wouldn't part with it.
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Old Shatterhand
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:43 pm

Joined: 24 Feb 2008
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cvdawley wrote:
Shatterhand: You emailed me an article but something went wrong in the transmission and I cant access it, could you send it to me again? Thanks

New mail with the article away.
O.S.
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Golfswithwolves
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:23 pm
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Location: Black hills of South Dakota

I've got a Sauer 16, am very happy with it. I shot some pheasants with it so far, also a sharptail. I had Mr. Mike Orlen open the chokes a bit too. Sauer seems to make a fine SXS, mine was built a long time ago.

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bhs61
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:28 pm

Joined: 28 Dec 2006
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Location: Cass Co. Il.

I have four Sauer SxS's at the present. Over the past forty plus years I have always had a Sauer to hunt upland birds with along with all the highly thought of American, Italian, Belgium and Spanish SxS's. This year I tried to use a RBL but ended up using the pictured Model 18e Sauer 16 ga that is two years shy of 100 years old. I purchased this gun at an auction here in Illinois last spring. It is a fantastic game gun and has seen a lot of use but still locks-up better than any gun I have ever owned.
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JonP
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:27 pm

Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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Location: MN

Boy-oh Boy (drool!!!!)---how about a close up of the action on that 18e (slobber, drool, sigh!!!).
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Prussian Gun Guy
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:33 pm
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Location: Long Island, NY

Early Sauers can be a joy, especially the ones with intercepting sears. In 16 ga. you can expect weights in the 6-6 1/2 lb. range.
The post WWII Sauers are also great guns. While a bit heavier, and with lesser quality than the older guns, they are still a bargain.
With either the pre or post war guns, you will get a gun that locks up tighter than a bank vault. Most utilize dual underlugs, side clips, and a Greener Crossbolt.
Most older guns do need to have their chokes opened up though.

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bhs61
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:37 am

Joined: 28 Dec 2006
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Location: Cass Co. Il.

According to Peter Arfmann and Rolf Kallmeyer in their book J. P. Sauer & son, the Model 18e was also known as a masterpiece shotgun. It was produced by the best specialists at the factory. I only wish this gun could tell of the hunts in its past as its condition indicates that it has seen many hours in the uplands. I intend to keep hunting with it as long as I am able and then will pass it on to my youngest brother in hopes that he will do the same.
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Gil S
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:28 pm
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Location: Lowcountry Ga.

I had a pre-war 16, DT, ejectors, cocking indicators. It had a well-figured Monte Carlo stock, sling mounts on stock and between barrels. It was a great shooting gun. I sold it about 20 years ago and wish I hadn't. It was made in 1934 in Suhl if my memory serves me correctly. It was a beautiful, well-made gun.
Gil
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Birdswatter
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:46 pm
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Here is link to a prior post of my 1938 16 ga. Drilling.............
http://www.16ga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=599&highlight=1938+sauer
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Birdswatter
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:52 pm
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And here is another pic....it is on the bottom.
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Gil S
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:57 pm
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Location: Lowcountry Ga.

Birdswatter,
Beautiful guns!
Gil
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